Thursday, July 28, 2005

CAFTA is Approved.

CAFTA got in with a 217-215 vote early this morning. Pub's voting against CAFTA:

Capito Coble Garrett Gutknecht Hostettler Jindal Jones (NC) LoBiondo McHenry McHugh Miller (MI) Ney Norwood Otter Paul Rehberg Simmons Simpson Tancredo
Probably notice that list is basically the GOP Endangered Species group if the party was to suddenly lose the majority. I wonder how late some of them had to hold their votes before Mr. Delay released them. The President got 12 cross-over votes on this one from the Dems. I was suprised to see that Rep. Moran (VA-8) even voted in-favor of the measure. And with that my blogging for the day ends as I am in meetings through dinner.


At 7/28/2005 09:41:00 AM, Blogger too conservative said...

Endangered Spieces? Not true. Congresswomen Capito, and Congressmen Goode and Tancredo are loved in there districts. Many of these politicians voted with their districts, thus making it sure that they were NOT endangered. Walter B.Jones from the Eastern portion of NC for example,voted with his district, in which many labor groups reside. Also, liberal Jim Moran was egged on by Congressman Davis to come on board.

At 7/28/2005 10:12:00 AM, Blogger James Young said...

I hate this kind of reflexive cynicism. Even though I disagree with their vote, I am perfectly willing --- in the absence of other evidence of political opportunism --- to believe that this was a principled, if wrong-headed, vote.

At 7/28/2005 10:49:00 AM, Anonymous Waldo Jaquith said...

Goode would be insane to vote for CAFTA. This district has lost tens of thousands of jobs, with double-digit unemployment in two of its three major cities, because of NAFTA. If he voted for CAFTA, that alone may be enough to cost him his seat.

Y'all are just as bad about eating your young as Democrats are ours. The guy did what he had to do. Believe me, if he'd voted for CAFTA, I'd be writing a few letters to the editor this very minute.

At 7/28/2005 11:11:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you look at his record, Jim Moran is an avid free trader. He is a liberal, but when it comes to trade, he votes his district which has a lot of companies that benefit from free trade. In fact, Moran is not very well liked by labor groups because he doesn't go along w/ them on trade issues. His vote in favor of CAFTA does not come as a surprise.

As far as the Republicans, some (like Walter Jones and Goode) were voting against it b/c they fear the loss of jobs. Guys like Tancredo, Otter, and Paul were voting no b/c they believe it gives up too much US sovereignty. Paul hates the WTO for the same reasons. In addition, Tancredo, sticking w/ his anti-immigrant views, is against any sort of integration w/ countries south of the border.

At 7/28/2005 12:00:00 PM, Blogger MR JMS said...

Half of these people are Freshmen or perenial targets. The individuals might be loved but the demo's tend not to be in their favor.

At 7/28/2005 12:38:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

-your right, thats why Goode voted against CAFTA.
-Mr.JMS, again I disagree.
These Freshman, or perennial targets are leaders in their states, and many in the party. Capito is the most powerful Republican in the state of West Virginia.
Tom Tancredo is popular on a national level, and voted on his anti-immigration platform. These Republicans voted against CAFTA because it would help them, not to purposefully go against the party.

At 7/28/2005 02:11:00 PM, Blogger MR JMS said...

TC- I love you man, but ask ANYONE that understands the politics of the house and they will tell you that Capito, Simmons, and Hostetler are ALWAYS a top tier target for the DCCC and NRCC.

I understand that they are all popualr, but they do not have the demographics to survive a fall in popularity if times get tough.

And, being the most powerful 'Pub in a Blue State does not mean to much. They may love you but they will eat you alive in a heartbeat.

At 7/28/2005 09:57:00 PM, Blogger Ben Kyber said...

Hey guys. I have an idea. Lets take our living wage, unionized jobs and send them to Guatamala.

Oh! Oh! And while we're at it, we can exploit the workers there to make profits for American companies! mean that idea already passed through congress?


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