Tuesday, September 13, 2005

Kilgore vs. Kaine Round 2

AP has the first report on the Kilgore-Kaine debate.


At 9/13/2005 07:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have to admit that was pretty funny. "That's a hypothetical too".

Of course, Russert knows the difference, he's not stupid, but it was still funny.

SO I guess Kilgore just lost the pro-choice vote...... :->

At 9/13/2005 10:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real question is whether he can really keep the pro-life vote happy with him. This is the second time he's completely punted on what pro-life people would expect would be a pretty easy, clear answer if he really believed in the cause. Instead, we got a mix of John Kerry and a far less accomplished Supreme Court justice than Roberts (who's doing great against the Dems!)

Kilgore is trying to have it both ways, and it's really making him look stupid. After seeing how important it is to have a strong leader as Governor in a disaster, I'm not sure I really trust a silver-spoon from a scandal tinged political family who spent all his time in office putting out press releases instead of working being the vanguard of Republican politics in Virginia.

At 9/13/2005 11:31:00 PM, Blogger criticallythinking said...

What is the right answer?

We like to talk about how great it would be if Roe V. Wade were overturned. But have we laid the foundation to outlaw abortion if they do?

What would the law look like? What exceptions would exist? When would the cutoff be?

A better answer would be:

"if and when it becomes clear that the supreme court is ready to consider such a move, we will have to have a real discussion of the issue to determine how best to legislate in the post-roe world. The details of such legislation would naturally depend on the scope of the Court ruling. My principles would be to provide only limited access to abortion, for the purposes I have previously specified, but frankly the possibility is so far-fetched at this time that we haven't had the debate we need to have to answer that question, and anybody who tells you otherwise is simply trying to score political points."

Of course, I'm not a Kilgore speech-writer or advisor, and I rarely find politicians who can always say the right thing.

It is a sad commentary on our culture that nobody laughs when Kaine says he is strongly personally opposed to abortion, and believes the teaching of his church (that abortion is murder) but that if Roe was overturned and the legislature, reflecting the will of the people, passed any additional restrictions on Abortion, he would veto the bill.

He wasn't going to win the anti-abortion vote anyway, but if we actually voted for governor in a post-roe world, there is no way in virginia a governor would win who promised to keep the status quo of abortion law in the state.

At 9/13/2005 11:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

both these guys are offering profiles in silly putty.

At 9/13/2005 11:51:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The right answer is simple: would you put doctors and women in jail for committing abortion? Yes or no.

Fact is, Boiling and McDonnell have no problem answering that simple question. There's no excuse for Kilgore.

Either you are prepared to jail people for murder or you aren't (Kaine isn't: at least that's a clear stance). Yet, right now, all three Governor's candidates basically hold the EXACT SAME position on abortion. That's crazy, but that's how things stand.

"if we actually voted for governor in a post-roe world, there is no way in virginia a governor would win who promised to keep the status quo of abortion law in the state."

I'm not so sure of that. The state is actually pro-status quo as far as I can tell from polling. And keep in mind that Republicans have never really HAD to face the prospect of a post-Roe world. Abortion has always been something to talk big about, without the fear of ever having to do anything. Now that fear seems to have paralyzed the already pretty wimpy and flimsy Jerry.

The Republican party should never have annointed such a lightwieght for this important race. Boiling or McDonnell are both easily way better candidates.


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