Saturday, October 15, 2005

Paper Update

The Washington Post has an article on the Jewish anger of Jerry Kilgore's Negative Ad on Tim Kaine. I personally feel the ad did a great job showing Kaine's real side. The Times Community Paper has an article on the hit sites by both Chuck Caputo, and Chris Craddock. The Connection Paper proves yet again that Democrats are crazy, by complaining that in a state of only 100 Delegate, that only "5" NOVA races are competitive. -Maybe someone should do an article on how less than 50 of the House Of Representative districts are competitive.


At 10/15/2005 09:57:00 AM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

In my opinion, the Kilgore ad was one of two things, depending on the campaign's confidence level: a desperation shot or just a stupid mistake.

First of all, the death penalty is a minor issue compared to things like transportation, education, taxes, immigration, etc. Granted, it is an issue that most feel strongly about one way or the other. But, for those to whom this issue defines who they support (much like abortion), the decision to support one of the two candidates was made a long time ago. I believe that the people who are still on the fence want to hear about other issues.

Now, to clarify, I am an ardent supporter of the death penalty. I believe it has significant deterrent value and that certain heinous crimes demand the ultimate punishment. I am also a Republican, though as stated previously, I refuse to simply tow the party line and blindly support Republican candidates. Having said this, I found the ads to be offensive and dishonest and am willing to bet that they will do much more harm to the Kilgore campaign than good.

As stated previously, swing voters who care a great deal about the death penalty should already know where the candidates stand on the issue and will factor that into their decisions accordingly. To those for whom this isn't a big issue, they will simply be left with the tenor of the ad, which is melodramatic and far too over the top to be taken seriously by rational people. But that's not even the worst part (if you're a Jerry fan). You've now taken an otherwise lukewarm Democratic base, totally offended them, and given them all the motivation in the world to give money and get out the vote for Kaine.

So, in conclusion, congratulations Jer. The money spent on these ads would have been more helpful had you simply flushed it down the nearest toliet.

At 10/15/2005 12:48:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I concur. A dumb move. It basically flooded out any press Kilgore would have gotten from his recent endorsements (which, unlike repealing the death penalty, banning abortion, gay marriage, or whatever else will never happen here in the next 4 years regardless of who wins) actually matter. They pissed off indepedents. They convinced moderate Republicans that Kilgore really was as desperate as he seemed on finding himself tied in a state that leans solidly Republican. And now they've finally given the Dems a lightning rod to organize an opposition around.

At 10/15/2005 04:45:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

I disagree.

For me, the death penalty isn't like some push button Republican issues like gay marriage, I can see it's impacts.

It is an issue I am very passionate about, and very in favor of. I believe Jerry did a great job in expressing Tim Kaine's liberalism, which sometimes doesn't fully come out in his sappy Hondoras religious excuse.

At 10/15/2005 06:18:00 PM, Blogger Hirons said...

Death penalty issue is anything but a minor issue. It's one of the issues that is always out there and one that the occupant of the Governor's mansion actually has some serious impact on.

It doesn't normally get a lot of play because most in Virginia expect our Governor to use it appropriately. Which we can count on Kilgore to do, but definitely cannot count on Kaine.

It's not an issue like transportation, because every year every one seeking office claims they will fix transportation and nothing really ever gets much better. But we expect our candidates to talk about transportation. Although to effect change on transportation would probably take more than a simple 4 year governor's term.

The death penalty can be turned on in off overnight if the elected governor chooses to do so.

Don't kid yourself for one second in thinking it's a minor issue. It's one that we should all be vigilant on and the Kilgore campaign has done an excellent job of brining out. His death penalty commercials are going to prove to be the most effective ads in '05 cycle. The general voting public is just seeing the commercials and thinking about the death penalty. If they even hear the Kaine excuses the general voting public will think he's simply dancing around the issue.

At 10/15/2005 06:38:00 PM, Anonymous marty's oversized melon said...

Kilgore's recent ads will prove to be a great move for him and will win him A LOT of votes. Any Protestant or Evangelical south of the Rappohannock will see these ads EXACTLY the way that Kilgore wants them to... as an attack on the principles, leadership and members of the so-called catholic church. And you know what? They are EATING IT UP! Southern Virginians love the idea that one of their own is saying aloud what no candiate dare say: that Roman Catholics are pro-crime, not truly Christians and anti-American.

The support crime because the Italian Mafia, the Irish Drunkards and the Mexican Illegal Aliens stuff the collection plate every Sunday making the pope richer but making it impossible for the pope to oppose their criminal activites.

The are not truly Christians because the read a false version of the Lord's Holy Book, the King James Bible; because they worship a statue of our Lord hanging on a cross, rather than worshiping our Savior; because the have created a false Goddess claiming that Our Lord's mother is equal to her son and that the whore Mary Magdeline was an associate, or even the bride, of our dear sweet Jesus.

The are anti-American because they swear allegience to a European King that they call "His Holiness" rather than pledging their allegience to the great stars and stripes of these United States of America.

Kilgore may have given up the votes of the idolitors er, Catholics. But he now has secured the vote of every true Christian soldier in Viginia and that is a good thing for ALL OF US!

At 10/15/2005 08:17:00 PM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

I'm starting to really like Marty's Oversized Melon. No offense to the real Marty, I've always thought he has a reasonably nice head. But M.O.M. is going places!


I agree with you on the death penalty. And it is an important issue. But Kilgore totally trivialized it with this ad. We need honest, unemotional dialog about this issue, not hyperbole. The Kilgore campaign really blew it here. We should be talking about why it's important to have the death penalty as a deterrent to criminals. Instead, we're talking about how insensitive and stupid the Kilgore campaign is with this. Is it too late to get a new ad manager?

At 10/15/2005 08:42:00 PM, Blogger Hirons said...

ask someone who's been touched by a crime of capital offense and see if you can get an unemotional dialog.

There aren't many issues that are as black and white as capital punishment. You're either for it or against it.

And if you are againist it in a state with a majority in favor - you should be called out on the carpet regarding it. That's exactly what these ads are doing.

By the way you are seriously distracting me on a research paper I'm suppose to be working for my MBA Studies. Of course discussion of politics is always much more interesting than Training Modeling for Project Management in IT Project-Oriented Organizations

At 10/15/2005 08:46:00 PM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

Totally off topic, sorry.

Scott, where are you doing your MBA and does it have a particular focus? I'm thinking about either doing an IT-focused MBA or going to law school. What do you think?

At 10/15/2005 08:54:00 PM, Blogger Hirons said...

Let's take it off line. Hit me via AIM - HIRONSGOP or via email links found through blogger id.


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