Saturday, October 15, 2005

Shoulda Thought On This One....

I have already stated how I am not a huge fan of the death penalty ads being run by the Kilgore camp right now. I will say however that they are etremely powerful and probably very effective. Now, I would like to point out something that is either very unfortunate for the Kilgore camp or very badly planned. I am currently watching the Notre Dame vs USC football game (I will say it is an absolutely wonderful game for the ages). Well, we have now seen the death penalty ads run a total of four times during the game. This probably isn't the best program for the ads to be run during. You have the largest Catholic school whose administration is anti-death penalty, and I would venture many of its alumni are as well, playing on one side. Then you have USC, a school from a region with a very large catholic population. So, many transplanted Virginians(most of NoVa) that have ever attended or been fans of either school may not be to happy right now about this one. UPDATE: Just saw the first Kaine response ad. So, we are 3 to 1. I think the Kaine ad at this time isn't helpful for him either.

13 Comments:

At 10/15/2005 07:28:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

Are there no other programs to run the ads during?

 
At 10/15/2005 07:55:00 PM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

I said this earlier, but I'll repeat in more brief fashion: The ad sucks and Kilgore will be lucky to survive it.

There, I'm finished.

 
At 10/15/2005 08:21:00 PM, Blogger Hirons said...

Mitch, mitch, mitch . . The ads will prove to be the defining moment in the Kilgore victory of '05.

 
At 10/15/2005 08:25:00 PM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

I'll agree that they'll be the defining moment of the campaign. But I'm not sure they'll be remembered the way you'd like. Quite frankly, they're a good example of what's wrong with our party and getting progressively worse.

 
At 10/15/2005 08:28:00 PM, Blogger Scott said...

how can standing strong on one of the key principles of "our" party be wrong?

 
At 10/15/2005 08:30:00 PM, Blogger Hirons said...

oops. Same person there. I accidently logged in with an old blogger account on the comment from "Scott"

 
At 10/15/2005 08:35:00 PM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

I don't consider these ads to be "standing strong." In fact, they're not even close. "Standing strong" would be offering a logical, unemotional arguement for the death penalty, one that demonstrates the important reasons why we, as Virginians, support this practice because it deters criminals and holds those who commit heinous crimes accountable with their lives. Again, these ads take this important issue and trivialize it by evoking Hitler and not even being honest about Kaine's history on the issue. Kilgore wins with me and the majority of Virginians on this issue by simply offering the facts. Instead, his campaign chose to take an important issue and roll around in the gutter with it. Quite frankly, I'm pissed. And, as a Republican, I'm a little embarrassed.

 
At 10/15/2005 10:39:00 PM, Anonymous RD said...

I'm sure your Perot-like policy infomerical about the death penalty filled with facts and charts from Kilgore would win lots of votes!

 
At 10/16/2005 12:30:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ONe has to be very sensitive and sensible about invoking Hitler (even to wish him a bad end) in statewide campaigns. Hitler didn't kill in Virginia and the magnitude of his evil should not be trivialized in the context of a mid-size southeastern state's gubernatorial election. It was fun for a few days to watch Kaine squirm, but the longer run issue is whether Kilgore's people have essentially trivialize the world's greatest mass murders for short-run, parochial politicl gain. If so, they deserve to take a hammering from the Jewish community.

 
At 10/16/2005 10:59:00 AM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

RD:

Maybe it wouldn't win Kilgore a lot of votes. Of course, it wouldn't lose votes, as I believe this ad ultimately will. Again, the voters most likely to be positively moved by this ad were already voting for Kilgore. The "Stanley" simply motivates his opponent's base and pisses of undecideds and even some of his base. I swear, I don't think that these campaigns spend more than a collective ten seconds thinking these things through. This was absolutely moronic.

 
At 10/16/2005 09:19:00 PM, Anonymous marty's forest of back hair said...

At this point, determining the winner of this election will be easy. The question is, which are there more of...

Papists, Jews & Atheists to vote for Kaine?
Or Christians to vote for Kilgore?

Count 'em up and there's your winner.

 
At 10/17/2005 10:06:00 AM, Blogger MR JMS said...

So Papists are non-christians now eh? Perhaps you should learn a little bit about christianity pre-16th century.

 
At 10/19/2005 12:19:00 AM, Anonymous Kris Nohe said...

Boy, if "Papists" – and by that I assume you mean Roman Catholics- aren't Christians, I wonder who is hanging on the cross above the alter at my church? Forest, your ignorance of Christian history and my husband’s follicular quantity and placement are astounding.

 

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