Monday, December 05, 2005

Kaine's Team

I am sure someone else in the blog world has posted on this, but I am going to anyways. Today I was looking at Gov-Elect Kaine's website and came across the press release that names the Governor-Elect's transition team. I was pretty shocked to find Sen Devolites-Davis and Former US Senator Paul Trible are all members of the transition team. Now, perhaps this is normal and individuals from the other side help with a new Governor's transition. If that is the case than someone please let me know. But if it isn't than these three Republicans, all of whom I admire, have let us down on this one. I also think it is perfect fodder against Sen. Devolites-Davis and her husband for any future statewide primaries or conventions they might look to partake in in the near future. Trible also is constantly throwing his name out for another statewide run, this just continues to push him further out of the good graces of the average GOP activists.

21 Comments:

At 12/05/2005 05:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr JMS. You confuse Onzlee Ware with Lee Ware. Onzlee is from roanoke and Lee is from goochland.
JDD is done statewide with this one. transition or sedition? you be the judge. confirms her need to win in 07 or is focusing on only races on fairfax races.
Trible could jump ship or go as an Independent OR is just trying to get $ for CNU.

 
At 12/05/2005 05:31:00 PM, Blogger MR JMS said...

Thanks for addressing the confusion on Lee. I will remove that from the original posting.

 
At 12/05/2005 06:33:00 PM, Anonymous gopwahoo said...

I think it confirms that Sen. Devolites-Davis is very worried about her own chances at re-election in 2007 (and rightfully so). It is more than potential fodder for a nominating contest, anon 5:29 is absolutely correct, she is done state-wide with this move. Voters absolutely respect working together in a bipartisan fashion-- but there are ways to do it without appearing to be joining ranks with your opponent. It also certainly doesn't bode well for her husband and any future state-wide ambitions he may be harboring, either. The conservative base (who votes in primaries and participates in conventions) already had enough questions regarding Tom Davis without this...

 
At 12/05/2005 11:47:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

I had to read that at least three times.

Senator Devolites-Davis...helping Tim Kaine transistion!?

Whaaat?

Wait a minute...

wow.

 
At 12/06/2005 12:34:00 AM, Anonymous Not Anonymous said...

Here's something for all the bloggers out there to find out -- when Allen won in 93 (taking over after Dem Wilder) or Gilmore succeeded him in 97, did they announce any Dems on the transition team?

The other question to ask before everyone gets all up in arms about this is, what exactly is she doing on the transition team? It could just be a ceremonial task...

 
At 12/06/2005 12:55:00 AM, Blogger criticallythinking said...

If Tim Kaine had called me and asked him to help him with the transition, I would have gladly joined up.

He already WON the election. At this point, he is Virginia's governor. Anything ANY of us can do to help him be successful at that job we should do, for the good of the state.

Politics is politics, but governance is not a game. I don't expect a republican on the transition team to help put together policies that are antithetical to the republican principles, but frankly I don't think the republicans in the transition are going to be asked to put together policy.

Sometimes people from the other party are asked to be cabinet members, and it is seen as a good "bipartisan" outreach. What is so different about a transition team?

Frankly, I would love it if Kaine would pick ONLY republicans to be on his team. What better way to influence him to do the "right" thing.

I would think that DEMOCRATS would be more upset with this. After all, one thing you expect when you win an election is the "spoils". There must be some qualified democrats out there who are upset that they didn't get picked for the transition team.

 
At 12/06/2005 02:48:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kaine is following the Warner model: instead of shutting out intelligent Republicans, he's trying to make sure that they are part of what he does. After all, he's going to be governing a Republican state. That's call bipartisan centrism, and he's wise to do it.

 
At 12/06/2005 05:40:00 AM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

I have to agree with Charles on this. Republicans shouldn't be bothered by this in the least.

 
At 12/06/2005 06:22:00 AM, Blogger AWCheney said...

What possible downside could there be to having Republicans on the transition team to keep Kaine and the Dems honest? I would think that this would be considered a small victory for Republicans.

 
At 12/06/2005 06:46:00 AM, Anonymous NoVA Scout said...

If we believe Republicans have substantive contributions to make to governance, we should be pleased that they have some minor role in these activities, even if largely symbolic. After all, after this past election, this is as close as we may get to governnace in Virginia for some time.

 
At 12/06/2005 01:53:00 PM, Blogger MR JMS said...

"Now, perhaps this is normal and individuals from the other side help with a new Governor's transition. If that is the case than someone please let me know."


That is my main question. Is this normal?

 
At 12/06/2005 03:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

clearly Gov. elect Kaine wants competent people on his transition team, thus the selection of Mrs. Devolites-Davis. This is more of a ceremonial post than not, after all we have Republicans and Democrats serving on the same committees in the legislature and no one accuses them of being in cohorts with the other side of the aisle JUST because they serve on the same committee. Kaine's appointment is an olive branch to the GOP, not a switch meant for the future tanning of someone's backside. Kaine wants competent folks to help assist the transition, that is OK, and anyone on the GOP side should have accepted this offer if it was extended to them. Time to govern now, not politics. If Kaine wanted incompetency on his transition team, then he would have selected former Gov. Jim Gilmore to serve on the transition team.

 
At 12/06/2005 04:15:00 PM, Blogger MR JMS said...

That still doesn't answer the original question.

 
At 12/06/2005 08:21:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the poiont is not whether it is good for JDD or Kaine, the original point was that the base, who was skeptical anyway, will not think highly of helping the guy who just defeated our guy. plenty of other people to choose from on this one...my guess is she lobbied for it.

 
At 12/06/2005 08:45:00 PM, Anonymous JOTB said...

Oh please the point is these two are being used and they probably know it. Say bye bye to hopes of state wide office.

 
At 12/06/2005 09:46:00 PM, Blogger Riley, Not O'Reilly said...

What about John Hager serving in the Warner Administration? How do people here feel about that?

 
At 12/06/2005 10:31:00 PM, Blogger AWCheney said...

Jotb,

Well, if that is what the majority of Republicans truly do believe then statesmanship must be considered a thing of the past. That would make the Republican Party the party of pure partisanship and not governance. That does not bode well for the Party.

 
At 12/06/2005 10:55:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

aw cheney, get over the whole being a statesman line o crap. it is called CYA plain and simple and she has no good will in the base to allow for the move. do most republicans vote in the convention or primary - no. most pubs don't give a hoot about this and 99.5% of them will never know. it is called erosion...

 
At 12/06/2005 11:42:00 PM, Blogger MR JMS said...

Riley- Forgot about that tid bit. Thanks.

Again, does anyone know if having a bi-partisan team is par for course? No assumptions-- facts! That is what I am curious about.

 
At 12/06/2005 11:42:00 PM, Blogger AWCheney said...

Well anon. 10:55 PM, if nobody cares then why make such an issue of it? Actually, in my opinion, I hope that we get a lot more Republicans on Kaine's transition team. I don't know what most of you consider a transition team to be but in my experience it is the team which sets up the agenda for a new administration to be put into action over the course of the executive's term, planning strategy to implement issues, executive appointments, etc. I don't know about anybody else, but I'm very glad that we are represented...and I seriously doubt that either Trible or Davis consider their appointments purely ceremonial.

 
At 12/07/2005 12:25:00 AM, Blogger AWCheney said...

Mr. JMS, I'm sorry but, though I am certain that other Virginia Governors have crossed the isle in the past for transition team members, I don't specifically recall who or when. I have a vague recollection of Stan Parris (former Republican Congressman, 8th Congressional) serving on a transition team, and I believe it was Wilder's, but I'm not certain and "Google" is not helping at all.

 

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