Thursday, December 22, 2005

Two Reasons to Support Randy Minchew UPDATED

Two Reasons to Support Randy Minchew: 1) Staton said. “My father, father-in-law, and I all share the same values.” 2)Supervisor Eugene Delgaudio said he has already endorsed Staton Delgaudio has stated:"Judge Roberts assisted the forces that would criminalize Christianity" At a gay rights march in Washington, he set aside a "Sodomy Free Zone" On Dick Black: 1)We were also the last of the 50 states to allow state-backed mortgages for people who are not related by marriage or blood. Republican delegate Dick Black led an effort this year to repeal the statute, calling its beneficiaries “irregular households.” 2)..as traffic in Eastern Loudoun was getting worse..Dick Black said“I don’t think there are many people who appreciate people who are open about a lifestyle involving sodomy.” " 3)This year, homosexual groups are very organized. They have flooded Richmond offices with e-mails and descended upon Richmond to lobby a radical homosexual agenda. Maybe it's just me..but I can't see the wave of homosexuality sweeping over Virginia any time soon. I am strongly for traditional marriage, but I don't understand how in eastern Loudoun Countytalking about homosexuals all the time does ANYTHING for his constituents? How does keeping "unmarried, or unrelated" people from having a mortgage do anything for his constituents? All the time he spent on fighting a homosexual war against the 5 gays in his district, he could have spent getting poeple home earlier, or even better ACTUALLY campaigning to get himself re-elected so we could hold onto that seat.It must have come as a shock when his usual letter to his consituents, where he states: (insert Democrat here)agrees with the homosexual agenda! Didn't seal the election for him. As far as Supervisor Delgaudio , who spends his time at Loudoun County Republican meetings handing out anti-gay buttons...it doesn't suprise me he would state that a staunch conservative like John Roberts assisted criminalizing Christianity... I think Mick Staton just gave whoever his opponent might be their perfect first mail piece. UPDATE: Virginia Centrist also looks into the race, and why Republicans do not need Dick Black Part Two.

33 Comments:

At 12/22/2005 06:44:00 AM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

Republican or not, I think we're all better off not having Dick Black to kick around any more.

 
At 12/22/2005 09:15:00 AM, Blogger Willis said...

Being homophobic is a sure way to lose elections, and it will continue to be in the years to come.

 
At 12/22/2005 10:07:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, TC. I totally agree with you. Minchew needs to be the Republican nominee.

 
At 12/22/2005 10:11:00 AM, Blogger too conservative said...

If we need to hold onto the seat he does.

I was told by some of the Black wing of the party that Staton wasn't like his father-in law...but in his recent comments he's tied himself with him.

 
At 12/22/2005 10:26:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me make sure I understand this...

TC blasts VCAP for not embracing and supporting Republican Encumbents over Republican Primary Challengers. He goes on a long explanation that expands his position to the point where he is basically against anyone who so much as attacks an incumbent Republican (no matter how horrible they may be.)

Yet here he lashes out at a sitting (albeit soon to be replaced and recently defeated) Delegate and goes into a diatribe against a potential candidate because they are similar to Delegate Black.

It seems to me TC is just a soft squish (with an identity crisis since he worked for Craddock who was just as strong on the Marriage issue as Black) who is good at crafting elaborate defenses of soft moderate republicans.

Minchew is a great guy but to say he should be selected because his potential opponent (lots of hypotheticals in play here) supports the values of a Delegate and happens to be endorsed by some nutjob isn't a remotely compelling or rational argument.

Can we have a serious debate on the merits of both individuals rather than going into the knee-jerk "opposition to the gay agenda must be homophobia" response... Marriage is a very important issue to MANY Loudon voters since a HUGE chunk of the population is married. It is only in the talking points of the left where you will find arguments such as these that defending marriage by opposing the radical alteration of the timeless institution only affects gays. I for one am a citizen in Loudoun who happens to be married and want a candidate who isn't afraid to stand up and defend the institution. If Minchew won't do that then he isn't my guy.

 
At 12/22/2005 11:09:00 AM, Blogger Riley, Not O'Reilly said...

I've met both Randy (as part of the '04 RNC delegation to NYC) and Mick (through YRs) and they're both good guys. I wouldn't dismiss Mick out of hand. I'd be more of the mind to see how they both campaigned for the nomination and what sort of issues they'll focus on. We should nominate whoever best articulates the GOP message and can get a majority of voters in that district to support it.

 
At 12/22/2005 11:30:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when is defending the institution of marriage being a homophobe? I am generally a conservative, but I could support a moderate if given a positive reason.

 
At 12/22/2005 11:42:00 AM, Blogger J.Sarge said...

None of my business, since I won't be voting in the firehouse, but I must admit I'm a little confused as to the merits of supporting someone based on his view on marriage to the exclusion of other issues.

Anonymous 10:26 said that "marriage issues" are important to Loudon voters because many of them are married. But allowing unmarried couples, even gays, to secure low-interest mortgages does nothing, as far as I can tell, to impact Anonymous 10:26's marriage. And I can say that with some confidence even though I do not know his or her identity.

Message to the Republican Spin Zone: remember not to spin yourselves. You characterize the debate about the role of gays and lesbians in society in terms of marriage. Don't forget that it is, in fact, a debate about values, not actually about the institution of marriage itself.

Comments like those from Anonymous 10:26 are why the left can mock the proposition that "marriage" is under attack. Those that are married, it seems to me, have very little reason to feel that their marriage is under attack, just their values.

 
At 12/22/2005 11:54:00 AM, Blogger too conservative said...

Anon-

I have problems with Republicans who just run because a seat is open, and NOT because they want to help their constituents.

Yes-I did work for Chris for 3 months, and I never heard him go off like Dick Black did.

Dick Black does nothing to help us out as a party, and because of him we lost a seat we should have retained.

I had an open mind about Staton, but apparently he is going to tie himself to the Black wing of the party..in my eyes this was a mistake, as there is alot of baggage associated with that .

 
At 12/22/2005 11:56:00 AM, Blogger too conservative said...

other anon-

Lets be real here....there is defending marriage as an institution, and thn there is spending every waking minute on the issue..and forgetting about other more important issues .

Dick Black went about it in a cruel unneccessary way, which makes his "morality" null in my eyes.

People can be moral, and good without running smear campaigns on homosexuals.

 
At 12/22/2005 01:43:00 PM, Blogger Elle said...

TC, exactly why I keep coming here-I don't know much about VA politics, but I liked the very human tone of your post.

"People can be moral, and good without running smear campaigns on homosexuals."
-so true, and thank you for saying. while i'm not opposed to gay marriages (or mortgages), i don't mind hearing opposing arguments that are based on reason (yes, Biblical arguments can be based on reason) rather than "cruel and unnecessary" hatred.

 
At 12/22/2005 03:14:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

Thanks elle...

I try to be straight forward with the thoughts and posts on TC, as I do feel the average Republican feels the same way.

If you live around this Senate District Minchew could use your help!

 
At 12/22/2005 03:18:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

As I just saw your from Houston Texas..I take back my last comment.

I might be attending Baylor in Texas next year(Tom DeLay's school until he got kicked out for drinking)..so I'll be down in the good 'ol South by you.

 
At 12/22/2005 03:59:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that second picture of Bill Bolling? If so, why? I wish I was joking, but I honestly believe you have an unhealthy obsession with the man. It's time to move on.

Do you always mention Tom DeLay when you talk about Baylor? What was the point of that?

 
At 12/22/2005 04:03:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

anon-

I do not believe I have done a post on Bill Bolling in a long, long time....

..and what does your comment about Delay and Baylor even mean? Why do you care?

 
At 12/22/2005 04:08:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't the desirability of marriage something that Gays and straights agree on? Can't see it being a divisive issue. The least cohesive demographic group on the issue seems to be married heterosexuals, who divorce with appalling frequency. Of course, many of them marry again, so maybe they really support marriage in the abstract, it's just the particulars that get them down.

 
At 12/22/2005 04:14:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think he posted the picture of Dick Black and Bill Bolling as a legitimate reason why we should oppose gay marriage -- could you imagine their offspring?!

 
At 12/22/2005 04:16:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

I think the issue only becomes devisive when people like Delegate Dick Black have nothing else to run on...so they say..hey lets blame everything on the homosexuals!

 
At 12/22/2005 04:59:00 PM, Blogger BlackOut2005.com said...

That's not Bolling in the photo with Dick Black. It's Bill Soltesz in his backyard during a fundraiser for Black. Here, you can read all about it in Eugene's "News"...

"Black Event today
May 14, 2005

Today, I will visit a 4 year college commencement for Patrick Henry College and then I will join many of you at the Dick Black event:

REMINDER REMINDER

>>>FAMILY BBQ AND KICK OFF FOR DICK BLACK

The conservative, severely Christian, Delegate who liberals huff and puff about and stamp their feet about, Dick Black, is hosting a Family BBQ Saturday May 14, rain or shine, from noon to 4 p.m. at Bill and Jeannie Soltesz's house at 43457 Colter court in Ashburn.

There will be every elected Republican from this county, and probably state and national leaders present. As much as liberals hate Dick Black,
the entire Republican universe, and regular old plain Americans too, in the USA leap for joy and shouts huzzah for Black.

For the more enthusiastic young republicans there will be a moon bounce and face painting."

 
At 12/22/2005 04:59:00 PM, Blogger Elle said...

TC,
hope you enjoy the deep South. It can be another world! Conversely, to be fair, I've never wanted to live anywhere else and am so so proud of being southern (originally from Louisiana). You have to take the bad with the good and there's lots of good (despite my exasperated, frequent complaints).

and, btw, i wasn't perturbed about your delay reference--as someone more than a bit interested in politics, i note things like that, too-- for example, barbara jordan and shirley chisholm were members of my sorority. of course, i'm much more enamored of them than delay! :-p in the end, it's all trivia, i suppose, but interesting none the less.

finally, to my (possibly) liberal buddies that post anonymously... be like me! open yourself up to conservative flaying. don't leave willis and me hanging by ourselves!

 
At 12/22/2005 05:07:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

..I think that is Bill Bolling...

elle-how did you find out about TC?

 
At 12/22/2005 05:17:00 PM, Blogger Too Moderate said...

TC-

You said you have a problem with Staton because he embraces the same values as his father-in-law. Which values exactly do you disagree with? Values, not actions.

 
At 12/22/2005 05:31:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

My point were that his values were bogus.

I lose respect for people who play the Christian card...and then go out of their way to slander and hate on people.

His values are to do anything he can to degrade homoesexuals..and it is not values which I respect.

 
At 12/22/2005 08:04:00 PM, Blogger Elle said...

TC, honestly, I believe I may have simply done a search on blogger using the word conservative. I like to read the "other" viewpoint and I cheat by reading yours because your moderate-ness is appealing to me (as far as reading goes :-)

I love what you're saying about Christianity--about how it's not about hatred and slander. One of my friends actually sent me an article a while back about keeping my eyes on the big picture-Jesus-when the hateful messages of some of His so-called followers was getting me down. I was raised in a Baptist Church, am still a member, and have learned my whole life about Jesus's love, compassion, and reaching out. It's nice to know that someone on the other side (and to be fair, I'll bet it's a lot of someones) remembers that, too.

PS and no, I am not saying (for anyone else that may attack me) that Jesus would condone and support everything that we fallible humans do--just that He would love us anyway!

 
At 12/22/2005 08:22:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...

Elle-

I am glad you found us then.

As a Baptist as well..your point makes sense to me.

Whats strange to me..is the range of opinions I hear regarding my beliefs. To some I am a moderate, but to others I am a hard-right conservative..

I guess it's all in the audience.

 
At 12/22/2005 08:39:00 PM, Blogger Willis said...

It's impossible to be a moderate (by its conventional usage, anyway), and have an interest in politics.

Nothing about you is moderate. You just disagree with your party from time to time.

 
At 12/22/2005 09:31:00 PM, Anonymous NoVA Scout said...

Given that Kaine appears to be reaching out somewhat to the GOP as he forms his administration, might he not think of a position for Eugene Delgaudio? I would be very concerned if this ridiculous fellow were to vanish from the scene through some sort of creeping sensibility coming to Loudoun County. Perhaps a position of Capitol Jester should be created to keep the guy active. This should be a non-partisan post for a term of years that does not coincide with the term of any particular sitting Governor. If Kaine can't get his arms around this idea, perhaps Delgaudio's good friends and ideological allies, people like Black and Bolling, could find room for him on Bolling's all-campaign-all-the-time staff. Delgaudio is just LOL goofy. He makes me laugh and improves any day into which his silliness intrudes.

 
At 12/22/2005 09:47:00 PM, Blogger Elle said...

willis, i have to disagree in part. i was a bit surprised that a guy TC's age was so politically minded--and a little scared--or maybe that's disappointed--that his bright mind had a conservative bent. but, in a lot of ways, he does seem moderate--not as inflexible as an old lib like me (31 whopping years ;-)or older neo-cons. so it's good that he's grounded in his beliefs, but not afraid to disagree or think outside his party lines.

and being a moderate is only impossible because of the polarized political climate of us against them that we've created (and yes, i'm guilty, too. i'm bothered by the way and the # of times i used the word "other" in my previous post).

 
At 12/22/2005 10:45:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just love the irony of someone as liberal as TC, using the name TOO CONSERVATIVE?

Who exactly is he too conservative for? Judging from his comments, we know that he's certainly more liberal than Delegate Black.

Where ever he's decided he's too conservative for, it certainly isn't Virginia politics. Could he be too conservative to legalize ALL abortions, or allow ALL gay marriages?

Maybe he's 'too conservative' for Teddy "get-drunk, and drown a girl in the Chappaquiddick" Kennedy; or perhaps Howard "We're-gonna-lose-this-war" Dean?

Regardless, it seems as if TC is always willing to jump into bed with the most liberal candidates he can find within the republican party.

 
At 12/23/2005 01:04:00 AM, Blogger Willis said...

Really, I disagree with calling anyone whose views aren't entirely Republican or Democrat a "moderate".

My views aren't entirely Democratic, and I often disagree with the party. But I'm not a moderate. All of my individual views are strong ones, its just that not all of them are the views of the Democratic party.

To me, a moderate is wishy-washy and doesn't really know what he/she thinks about alot of things.

I'm not that, and neither is TC, I suspect.

 
At 12/23/2005 09:38:00 AM, Blogger too conservative said...

Anon-

I am not more or less conservative than Delegate Dick Black...I disagree with him on how he goes about getting things done.

 
At 12/27/2005 01:02:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

TC's a total liberal.

 
At 12/27/2005 01:30:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best reason to oppose Staton is that there is nothing he can point to as a reason to be elected, except that he married into the Black family. Considering the spanking Dick Black just received, Staton might be making the strongest argument possible against his own election.

 

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