Tuesday, January 31, 2006

Staton Concedes

Staton concedes. Good fight, good night.

24 Comments:

At 1/31/2006 08:13:00 PM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...

I hope the Blackout folks are proud in handing over these districts to Democrats. The infighting they have helped cause is I'm ceretain affecting turnout. Republicans need to get a grip and get behind their candidates if they want to win.

 
At 1/31/2006 08:13:00 PM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...

I hope the Blackout folks are proud in handing over these districts to Democrats. The infighting they have helped cause is I'm ceretain affecting turnout. Republicans need to get a grip and get behind their candidates if they want to win.

 
At 1/31/2006 08:15:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The SBE Website has the Herring win at 63% of the vote! This is more then a simple disaster, this is a repudiation of the Republican Party in the richest, fastest growing jurisdiction in the country!

 
At 1/31/2006 08:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey rtwng extrmst -

Why don't you call them a few more names so that they continue to vote against us again in the future.

You idiot.

 
At 1/31/2006 08:23:00 PM, Blogger republitarian said...

I hate to say I told you so...

The republicans have nothing to blame but poor leadership.

Anyone seen Chairwoman Kate????

I think they should take the democrats a little less seriously next time.

 
At 1/31/2006 08:48:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Staton lost every single precinct including his own!

I bet he doesn't get re-elected next year.

 
At 1/31/2006 08:53:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey rtwg extrmst -

If this is not a wake-up call to you and your "rtwg extrmst" cronies, what is?

The reality of the situation is that centrist voters would rather vote for a Democrat than a "rtwg extrmst republican"

Congrat's Senator Herring.

 
At 1/31/2006 09:02:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, at least it was close.

 
At 1/31/2006 09:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Herring won 63% of the vote.

Staton was close only if nuclear weapons were involved ...

 
At 1/31/2006 09:05:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Folks can't blame this one on Bush, Kilgore, the weather, the economy, blah, blah, blah.

Folks can blame RPV, Cucinnelli, Black, Staton, and others for thinking voters are stupid and that they know what is best for them.

The so-called "conservatives" may have finally driven out enough "moderates" to make us the minority party.

Congratulations.

 
At 1/31/2006 09:07:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Folks like Staton, Black, FitzSimmonds would rather lose than be anything less than 100% pure far-right conservative.

And lose they will.

 
At 1/31/2006 09:12:00 PM, Anonymous Stephen said...

Staton lost for two reasons:
1. The Republican party no longer does better voter id/GOTV than the Democrats.
2. The party establishment - especially its moderate wing - failed to back Staton.

see here.

 
At 1/31/2006 09:14:00 PM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...

Anon: I am not the one calling people names, you are.

And moderates had better get used to Democrats being in power up there if they are not going to support good conservatives like Ken Cuccinelli.

I admit Black and DelGaudio are too over the top and that has probably hurt the cause of conservatives, but it's not conservative issues that are the problem here.

A defeat of this magnitude in a traditionally Republican district speaks volumes about problems in the Party itself. Don't blame this on Mick Staton either. I suspect Minchew would have done little better. I believe the real problem is the infighting in the party has finally gotten people's BS meter to the point that they are staying home. Dems are certainly energized as well.

Before the moderates in the Party start to say this is some kind of victory for them, they had better remember when the Dems keep our taxes going up and services don't improve, and you start to become less enamored with the Dems you've helped elect, you will need good conservatives to set things straight. You have made a short-sighted step here and need to consider what you've helped to bring about.

 
At 1/31/2006 09:18:00 PM, Blogger BlackOut2005.com said...

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At 1/31/2006 09:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the moderates are not going to return because they are constantly attacked. Can you say "minority"?

How about "pro-choice"? Or, gun control? This is what the coming Democratic majority will push along with education and transportation.

But at least the "conservatives" will feel better meeting in their phone booth.

 
At 1/31/2006 09:22:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The so-called "conservatives" started a war in which they won the battles but have lost the war.

Enjoy the fruits of your "victory".

 
At 1/31/2006 09:24:00 PM, Blogger BlackOut2005.com said...

Let me clarify,

FORTUNATELY, it turned into another spanking for the Black Brigade. Unfortunately it wasn't a debate on issues that Minchew would have provided.

 
At 1/31/2006 09:54:00 PM, Blogger Willis said...

Seems to me that TC and others' plan to oust the "squish" Republicans has backfired considerably.

Only "squish" Republicans can win up here. True conservatives get spanked.

 
At 1/31/2006 10:00:00 PM, Anonymous The Jaded JD said...

Rtwing Extremist:

I'm confused. Weren't you one of the conservatives who proudly claimed that Jerry Kilgore lost because conservatives didn't vote for him--that Jerry Kilgore was perceived as too moderate? And now you're blaming moderates for not "taking one for the party" and voting for a hard-right candidate in the name of party loyalty?

Frankly, what you don't seem to understand, is that a Democrat can be closer to a moderate Republican on the ideological spectrum than a hard-right, extreme conservative. It's easier for moderate Republicans to get along with, and to govern with, some Democrats than with some conservative Republicans. So it bothers us less, in some cases, if a Democrat wins than if a Republican wins. On the other hand, it should bother conservatives considerably more to lose to a Democrat, compared to losing to a moderate Republican--the moderate Republican is closer on the ideological spectrum than the Democrat is every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

But too many conservatives fail to see that logic, and stubbornly resist it where, as here, it is plainly demonstrated. Once again, the some conservatives are happy to blame moderates for staying at home and not helping Mick Staton, while those conservatives were tripping all over themselves to take credit for the Kilgore loss by having stayed home last November.

If you want a principled minority party, go create your own. There's no need--except spiteful jealousy--to drag the Republican Party down with you.

 
At 1/31/2006 10:11:00 PM, Anonymous NoVA Scout said...

Thanks for hanging in here with us, JD. You're missed, but you're not gone.

 
At 1/31/2006 11:03:00 PM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...

JD,

Unfortunately you help describe the truth of what I was saying. At least in NOVA there needs to be a team of moderate and conservatives to win elections. Unfortunately, conservatives feel the same way about Democrats. If we have to give up on our core beliefs to win in NOVA, we will probably see more Democrat winners. If a moderate Republican looks like a moderate Dem, why make the effort?

I will always come back to this basic premise, if moderates in the Republican party want moderate candidates, get them nominated in the primaries. Otherwise quit whining and get behind your party's candidate if you believe what the Republican party believes more often than the Dems, this should be no problem. However, we seem to have more people interested in taking their marbles and going home than trying to win elections.

Also, you misunderstand my points about Kilgore. Kilgore lost voters on both sides in the Party because he refused to take any kind of stand on the issues. This plus the beating he was taking from Potts in a willing media depressed alot of turnout for him.

In the end, if we want a Republican Party to win in NOVA, we may well need more moderate candidates. However, we do not need candidates that just trash the conservatives in the party. I have voted for moderates in the past who have this inclusive view. I also support conservatives who do the same. Do you?

 
At 1/31/2006 11:15:00 PM, Anonymous The Jaded JD said...

RE,

I've voted in every party nomination contest since I turned 17, and every general election since I turned 18. I started volunteering for campaigns at 14, and since then I've filled a variety of staff roles, including campaign manager and consultant. With the exception of Marsh Coleman in 1994, I've never worked for a non-Republican candidate. With the exception of an occasional primary crossover vote to get a weaker Democrat nominated, I've never voted for a Democrat. Until last November, when I abstained on the statewide races, I've voted for a Republican in every partisan race on every general and special election ballot.

I feel that I've paid my dues to the party.

 
At 2/01/2006 01:10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so tired of all the labels and name-calling: left-wing, right-wing, conservative, liberal, moderate, nut job, wacko...

Does anyone remember "A house divided against itself cannot stand"? Crumbling, crumbling, crumbling...the house is falling down around our feet, fellow Republicans.

We'd better get it figured out soon, or we'll have President Clinton in 2008. And I don't mean Bill.

 
At 2/01/2006 01:10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so tired of all the labels and name-calling: left-wing, right-wing, conservative, liberal, moderate, nut job, wacko...

Does anyone remember "A house divided against itself cannot stand"? Crumbling, crumbling, crumbling...the house is falling down around our feet, fellow Republicans.

We'd better get it figured out soon, or we'll have President Clinton in 2008. And I don't mean Bill....

 

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