Wednesday, February 01, 2006

Getting There From Here

Last night we suffered what can only be described as a major setback with Mick Staton’s substantial loss to a Democrat carpetbagger in a district that should be substantially Republican. Of this, there is no spin, no sugar-coating that can polish this turn of events into something that it isn’t. So what do we do now? First, I call on all Republicans to stop the name-calling and blame-gaming. We need to calm down and use reason and logic to think our way out of this pickle. Second, we need to drag our party kicking and screaming back to its primary reason for existence: winning elections. Three, pursuant to my second point we need to realize that our Commonwealth is a diverse one and is changing daily. We must understand that “one size doesn’t fit all”. We must run candidates who are good fits for their district even if those candidates do not meet all elements of an ideological laundry list. Fourth, pursuant to point three, our state party needs to trend away from its stance on policy as evidenced by the multitude of press releases by RPV leadership on various policy/legislative issues and spend the vast majority of its time developing grassroots infrastructure so we can determine the “ground truth” political environment of a particular district in order to cultivate candidates WHO CAN WIN in their respective districts. This means some candidates will be very conservative, some will be moderates and some will be liberal. Fifth, we Republicans need to rediscover our manners and civility. We must learn to disagree without being disagreeable and calling each other names. When we do so, we only show the electorate that we’re nothing more than a bunch of immature, bickering children who don’t deserve being elected to street-sweeper much less to the oldest, democratically elected legislature in the new world. Sixth, pursuant to point five, I believe that there is no better kind of leadership than that of example. Therefore, I pledge here to treat all Republicans with cordiality and respect. I will not call anyone names like “squish” or “RINO”. When we disagree I will attempt to change your mind using logic and reason. I invite and challenge you to do the same. As I’ve said before, I’m deeply troubled by the turn our party has taken over the past several months. Anybody who knows me, knows that I’m not one to complain for the sake of complaining. What we need to do is look to those in our party who have been successful and have a track record of achievement. I pledge to do just that. One that comes to mind is Wayne Ozmore and his committee's and local committee's achievements in my hometown of Hopewell. I know there are a lot more. Over the next several weeks, I’m going to be compiling a list of congressional district committee and county/city committee meetings. This spring and summer look to see me visiting your meeting to discuss ways we can improve our operations and our core mission of electing Republicans. If you have ideas to share, I’d love to hear from you. You can post them here or send me e-mail at If you’d like to chat by phone just e-mail me your phone number and I’ll return your call. I’m not too hip on posting my phone number here on the internet! But I will definitely get back to you. I look forward to visiting with you over the next several months and/or hearing from you. Jay Hughes


At 2/01/2006 11:21:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, run some conservatives, run some moderates, run some liverals.... whatever it takes to win.

So, just what is a Republican, anyway?

At 2/01/2006 11:25:00 AM, Anonymous NoVA Scout said...

Excellent post, Jay. I needed something like that this morning.

At 2/01/2006 11:27:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You need to apologize immediately to the Senator-elect. He is not a carpetbagger, and that kind of false invective is exactly why your candidates are losing, and will continue to lose.

Senator Herring has lived in Leesburg Virginia since he was 12 years old. Historically, the 33rd Senate district has included ALL of Leesburg, VA. In 2001, the GOP INTENTIONALLY districted Mark's precinct out of the district to prevent him from running.

Mark's moving into the district, a few blocks away from his old house to his new one, is not carpetbagging. It is adjusting to an intentional slight.

The GOP astounds me. Delgaudio is the biggest carpetbagger to ever hold elected office in the County of Loudoun, and he'll be next to go.

This kind of false accusation is why you guys are losing. Keep it up, I'm enjoying the ride.

Doug in Mount Vernon

At 2/01/2006 11:29:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How ironic with your call for returning to civility that you start out calling Senator Herring a carpetbagger.


Doug in Mount Vernon

At 2/01/2006 11:33:00 AM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...

Jay, good comments. As to point 5, good luck. I took that pledge long ago and still can't seem to understand why so many seem intent on name-calling.

I have to say I would modify your first point somewhat. Winning elections is important to the Party, but just as important is our reason for winning elections, or else what is it we stand for? This we cannot give up just in order to win elections.

This does not mean there is not room for all types of views in the Party, but we as a party should have a common agenda overall and those that don't represent that common agenda in some way(s), should understand that, accept it for the greater Party good, work within the party to make changes where they believe they are necessary, and avoid going outside the party to fix those problems. On that last point I will use as examples (without name calling) Russ Potts and the Blackout Brigade (if they are truly Republicans as I hear they are a mix). Otherwise if you differ with the party on a majority of its stances I have to wonder why you are in it to begin with.

Finally, as to candidates: people need to realize that if they want candidates of a particular point of view to represent them in the party, they need to get involved, recruit like-minded, competent candidates, and get them nominated. This is not just something that happens out of the blue because your district leans one way or the other. It takes work. Don't blame your party for having bad candidates if you aren't working within the party to get your candidate of choice nominated. In NOVA at least there are plenty of more opportunities to pick candidates now that there are Democrats holding those offices. Get to work!

At 2/01/2006 11:38:00 AM, Blogger Not Not Jay Hughes said...


My use of the term "carpetbagger" was actually a tongue-in-cheek compliment to the Senator-elect and meant to impress upon members in my party of the need to understand local political environments. I.e. "we got our asses whipped by a carpetbagger".

I should have used an emoticon or something to denote that.

I apologize for not being more clear. If that's not good enough then I suppose I could commit ritual suicide at some point. (more tongue-in-cheek humor) :-)

At 2/01/2006 11:51:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the winner is.....

West Virginia.

Why doesn't my Republican party stick to its character as the party of reasonable accommodation of economic growth?

Democrats insistence on denying opportunities for growth by denying the opportunity is consistent with Democratic tinkering with economic forces. And, the result is the same: They hurt the ones they try to help.

Herring's "smart growth" Board of Supervisors misguided attempts to preserve the bucolic nature of Western Loudoun simply pushed growth into West Virginia. So, the "bucolic" lanes of western Loudoun experience bumper to bumper traffic at 4:30 AM. We get the traffic and West Virginia gets all the tax revenue -- nothing smart about that.

Just as sure as Labor killed Detroit auto industry and gave a boon to Japan, this bunch will be the best thing that ever happened to Charlestown, WVA.

We need to show ourselves as the party best equipped to engage business and government in logical and mutually beneficial growth. We need to bring back those days when the community actually stood and applauded when the plans for Cascades development were unveiled.

Side note: Doug in Mount Vernon has a point on the "carpetbagger" comment. Cheap shot and counter productive.

At 2/01/2006 11:59:00 AM, Blogger Not Not Jay Hughes said...

Anon 11:51---I explained the comment and apologized, I appreciate you calling me to task....however, despite what I said, as the victor Sen.-Elect Herring gets to cry all the way to Richmond to take the oath of office. :-)

At 2/01/2006 12:05:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay --

This is Anon ll:51.
Sorry, I was still typing while you were explaining.
Perhaps we're all taking ourselves a bit too seriously this morning.
Feeling blue. :)
Poisson. Herring. Something fishy in Loudoun.
Sorry, again. Couldn't resist that.

At 2/01/2006 12:07:00 PM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...

Also, as a Democrat, I guess Doug feels he needs to show us Republicans how to get our house in order... ;-)

At 2/01/2006 12:10:00 PM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...

Anon 12:05, good one. I hadn't recognized that until you just posted it. Perhaps thats the real problem in Loudoun. We better watch out if the Democrats next nominate another candidate with a last name of a fish... ;-)

At 2/01/2006 12:17:00 PM, Blogger Lucy Jones said...

I started visiting the blogs late last year to find out more information on what was going on. I was really frustrated with the Kilgore/Kaine campaign and even more concerned with the Peace/Montgomery race in my district not long ago. The more I read and heard it seemed the party is having problems in other areas just like mine. The party that I have been confident with for the last 20 years is just not the same. I could always pretty much count on the Republicans “doing the right thing”. My party has always been very good at looking out for my moral interests and for my fiscal concerns. The Kilgore/Kaine campaign left me with a bad taste. The Democrat was addressing fiscal concerns and my republican candidate was busy slurring a devout Catholic? This on the heels of having a Democrat in office that pulled the wool over our eyes, raised taxes, bloated the budget, etc. really gave me pause. And then not much later, I’m voting in a race with a Dem who is strong on social values, community service, fiscal plans, etc. and the Republican candidate is doing what? I looked on the website and found a list of the same old “stuff to do” list with no real plans. I saw a TV add slurring the Dem. Granted, I wasn’t in the “critical” area where his campaign focused, but still, I should be able to find more substance in a candidate than he’s pro-life, anti gay marriage and the son of someone I’ve never heard of but they were important. There are a lot of issues that need to be addressed in the Commonwealth. There are some people (like my parents) who will vote Republican if you march out the Mad Hatter in a teapot. There are some who will vote for the candidate if he stands on a box and yells “Make abortion illegal now”. But there are a growing number of citizens who are looking around and saying “Hey, wait a minute, I’m helping my parents out because their pension just isn’t cutting it anymore; My adult children are living at home because they can’t afford their own; I’ll never retire because social security is out the window and I have nothing left to save; My tax dollars are being sucked into the education system like no tomorrow and the school just sent home a letter asking for chalk and copy paper; The government is asking for another $80/month from each family for transportation to keep doing the same old thing they’ve been doing with the last billion we gave”. Something is not right here!

This is why I’m here. Several folks have just told me, “fine, if the Dems have the plan, vote for them”! Um… NO. I’m donating enough out of my paycheck to that cause already, thank you very much. Yes, I’m one of those dreaded moderates but I’m glad for those to my right who keep us morally on track, and I’m glad for those to my left that keep us from spending too much on our good will “causes”.

So, I’m here. What can folks like me do to help make our party strong again?

At 2/01/2006 12:44:00 PM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...


You don't sound moderate to me. Perhpas you should run for office...

At 2/01/2006 12:57:00 PM, Blogger Lucy Jones said...

Are you kidding! The voters would have a field day with this young/old granny! I've got enough "stupid things I did in my twenties" skeletons to fill up two or three closets!

No murders or anything, but I come from Bubba Country! Big trucks, fast cars, lots of mud!!

At 2/01/2006 12:59:00 PM, Blogger neocon22 said...

great post jay...lets hope it resonates

At 2/01/2006 01:02:00 PM, Blogger nova_middle_man said...

like this post has already said in one of the points. Attend and speak out at your local republican committee meetings, write an email to the state committee expressing your views, but most importantly in my humble opinion get active in your community.

At 2/01/2006 01:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think these are some great points. A question was posed here and has been at some of the other blogs I frequent and I think it’s an important one, but probably for a different reason than others. The question was actually asked by rtwng extrmst at this blog: "Winning elections is important to the Party, but just as important is our reason for winning elections, or else what is it we stand for?"

This question about what we stand for has been asked a lot lately and it has also led to some comments to say that the answer to this question is the reason why we cannot be an inclusive party with social conservatives, social moderates, possibly some social liberals, fiscal conservatives, and fiscal moderates (there's more, as we seem to have members of our party who are quite diverse). What I mean is this; there are a lot of people who want to purge the party of those they deem not Republican enough because they are moderate on some issues and not conservative. As if being conservative is the only way to be a member of the Republican Party. I disagree with this.

I believe that if we continued to follow our beliefs, outlined as the Republican Principles (, then we would have a much better chance of winning. We should be talking about these principles, not the issues that will ultimately divide us in the party and lead to terrible losses like the one yesterday.

At 2/01/2006 01:42:00 PM, Blogger James Young said...

Doug, for once, we are in accord. I seem to recall vividly those "Group A" types who leveled the same accusation against Scott Lingamfelter.

As for Jay's comments in chief, I agree that the labels "squish" and "RINO" are overused ... largely in accusations leveled against committed Conservatives who challenge the advancement of bad ideas, but rarely engage in the kind of labeling of which they are accused.

And for some reason, rtwng and Jay, I doubt the sincerity of Doug.

At 2/01/2006 01:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd vote for you lucy. Time to start being inclusive of big trucks and fast cars (muddy or not).

At 2/01/2006 02:01:00 PM, Blogger AWCheney said...

WOW Jay...where have you been hiding?! I wish I had come online sooner so that I could have applauded your post sooner. Your "six points" are long overdue and, in my opinion, exactly what most of us have been hoping for since this debate began. Relative to me (and probably most of us), you are representative of the youth of the Republican Party and, in my experience, it's always been our Party youth who have managed to turn things around (Dick Obenshain was barely out of the Young Republicans when he was at the heart of the "great Virginia conservative reshuffle" which led to the dominance of the Republican Party in Virginia). I'm with you 100%!

At 2/01/2006 02:28:00 PM, Anonymous blackout2005 said...

and the Blackout Brigade (if they are truly Republicans as I hear they are a mix)

Way to pay attention, rtwng. Where did you hear that? From us?

"We are a political action committee - Republicans, Democrats and Independents - who are united in opposing the political agenda of Richard H. "Dick" Black, former Delegate of the 32nd District. We are committed to communicating the truth regarding the views and actions of Black and his proxies."

We have different reasons for opposing the agenda of the Black Brigade, but the one near and dear to our Republican members is what just happened yesterday. Had the primary gone differently, we could have spent more of our energy supporting the respective candidates and having a cordial debate over the best solutions to the district's problems. We hope to be able to do that someday.

At 2/01/2006 02:50:00 PM, Blogger Hirons said...

JY - Got examples?

As for Jay's comments in chief, I agree that the labels "squish" and "RINO" are overused ... largely in accusations leveled against committed Conservatives who challenge the advancement of bad ideas, but rarely engage in the kind of labeling of which they are accused.

I wouldn't deny there's been way too much name calling going around, but squish and RINO overused against "committed Conservatives". You often use both of those words - so are you saying Sean Connaughton is in fact a committed Conservative?

I agree with you on the Lingamfelter point. You would probably put me in the group that "leveled the same accusation . . " since I worked for his primary opponent. However I since his election (which I supported whole heartily, post primary) he proved to be a great delegate - I really miss being represented by him.

At 2/01/2006 02:59:00 PM, Blogger too conservative said...


I don't like inter-party fighting, but these people will fight anyways.

So we can sit back, and let them take over and hijack everything-or we can work hard to make sure electable principles conservatives win elections.

At 2/01/2006 03:08:00 PM, Blogger Lucy Jones said...

How 'bout a mud bog for a fund raiser??? Think we can get Warner and Allen out there for some real slingin'?

(Just kidding... but it would have been fun, no?)

At 2/01/2006 04:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lucy, that sounds like a blast!

We've got the Shad Plankin', the Crab Feast.

Is the Mud Hole next? ;-)

Doug in Mount Vernon

At 2/01/2006 05:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The state GOP has no leadership.

Start at the top and work down!

At 2/01/2006 06:14:00 PM, Blogger Lucy Jones said...

I was fortunate enough to attend the Shad Plankin' once. Wowzers! That's the place to be if you like politic-n'. I've never seen so many big white toothy smiles in my life! I felt like little red riding hood in a pit of wolves!

At 2/01/2006 11:30:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go, Doug. You are correct, Delgaudio is the real carpetbagger. He moved from elsewhere (Fairfax?) to Sterling just to run for the BoS. He rented a townhouse while his wife and kids continued to live and attend school elsewhere. Now rumor has it that the carpetbagger is going to challenge Jim Rich for his office. Eugene will get his butt kicked harder than did Staton!!!!

At 2/02/2006 10:31:00 AM, Blogger James Young said...

No, Scott, they're labels used against people like me, who rarely uses such labels. I would suggest you do a word search here on your own website of "RINO." You'll find that it has been used far more by TC and MR JMS than by anyone else. It's a club with which they beat committed Conservatives. Then try such a word search on mine.

In fact, as to "RINO," I have used that label precisely three times in my blog, applying it to Chichester, Potts, and Jim Dillard. Want to argue about any of those applications?

I don't believe that I have EVER called Chairman Sean a "RINO." That is perhaps the foremost "urban legend" (oh boy! There's an urban legend about me!) here at TC.

Four other references are in the nature of "he is or has become the kind of Republican that inspires monikers like 'Repubmocrat' and 'RINO' (for Republican In Name Only)."

So far as I can tell, the word "squish" has NEVER appeared on my blog.

At 2/02/2006 10:50:00 AM, Anonymous Rtwng Extrmst said...

JY, I would add Gary Reese to that list. I don't know Dillard well, but I would not be surprised he fits it too. I agree however, it should be a VERY limited list of names.

At 2/02/2006 11:54:00 AM, Anonymous David said...

Do a word search on James Young's blog for "pervert." But, of course, he doesn't consider that a name. He has special rights :)

At 2/02/2006 02:45:00 PM, Blogger James Young said...

David, I'm not going to apologize for using accurate terminology in lieu of the far Left's inaccurate and concealing euphemism.


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