Thursday, February 02, 2006

Interesting Read

The Post has an interesting article, which is a good read during this time of RPV reflection and search for direction.

'St. Jack' and the Bullies in the PulpitJohn Danforth Says It's Time the GOP Center Took On The Christian Right By Peter SlevinWashington Post Staff WriterThursday, February 2, 2006; Jack Danforth wishes the Republican right would step down from its pulpit. Instead, he sees a constant flow of religion into national politics. And not just any religion, either, but the us-versus-them, my-God-is-bigger-than-your-God, velvet-fist variety of Christian evangelism. As a mainline Episcopal priest, retired U.S. senator and diplomat, Danforth worships a humbler God and considers the right's certainty a sin. Legislating against gay marriage, for instance? "It's just cussedness." As he sees it, many Republican leaders have lost their bearings and, if they don't change, will lose their grip on power. Not to mention make the United States a meaner place. Danforth is no squalling liberal. He is a lifelong Republican. And his own political history shows he is no milquetoast. Rest of Article
In the early 90's Senator Danforth was the first (non-Virginian) national politician I had the opportunity to meet and get know. He worked closely with the organization I had my first internship with during my senior year of college. I continued my career with the organization and had the opportunity to interact with him on a very close basis often. He's definitely a good voice to carry this message; if it's the right one. I've always had a deep admiration for Rev./Amb./Sen. Danforth.


At 2/02/2006 09:43:00 AM, Anonymous NOVA Scout said...

Nice post, Scott. thanks for bringing that to our attention. The Reverend Senator Ambassador Danforth is indeed an impressive fellow.

At 2/02/2006 09:55:00 AM, Blogger valleyconservative05 said...

I will have to respectfully disagree with Mr. Danforth on the national level.

Virginia Democrats play a different ballgame than the liberals on the national level. Until the RPV figures this out we will be in for more of the same. Both Tim Kaine and Mark Warner talk like conservatives and legislative like moderates. We must not give up the fight nationally but at the same time we must also realize that Kaine and Warner are not really extreme left social liberals like the DNC national leadership. I dare say both Warner and Kaine are possibly more conservative than Snowe or Chafee in the U.S. Senate. Danforth is just mad because his moderate wing on the national level is failing big time. Just take a look at the national GOP leadership. I think the American people spoke loud and clear in 04. If the national party falters in 06 it will be because of scandal not social issues such as abortion and homosexual marriage.

Now at the state level these social issues have not played well over the last five or six years because there is not much difference between the candidates on these issues at least on what they say. Just take a look at the previous campaigns websites. Tim Kaine's web site if you took the words Democrat off would look very similar to a faily conservative republican in most other states.
We as republicans must be able to point out the difference between the two parties if we are to take back NOVA. I think Craig Deeds will attempt to play the same game over the next 3.5 years so he can call himself a moderate as well when he secures the Democratic nomination down the road. Just calling someone a liberal does not work anymore in Va because the moderate/liberal candidates blatently refute these charges with the exception of Byrne.

At 2/02/2006 10:22:00 AM, Blogger Mitch Cumstein said...

Great post, Scott! I couldn't agree more with Danforth's sentiments on this. One of my biggest problems with the GOP over the last several years has been the increasing trend of bringing religion/religious beliefs into government. And Danforth's right. It isn't religion in general, it's a very specific, hard-core Christian faith that demands that everyone adhear to its teachings with no room for other beliefs.

And as far as the American people speaking load and clear in '04? Please. The election was about security and foreign affairs, with just enough moderates being unwilling to make a change during a dangerous time. It had nothing to do with the social issues that valleyvonservative05 suggests.

At 2/02/2006 10:40:00 AM, Blogger valleyconservative05 said...

Mitch, without the social issues the GOP looses their parties base on the national level. Those "hard core" Christians like it or not brought home the bacon for Bush in 04. Yes security and terrorism played a role but if you isolate the religious right the GOP will never again win a national election. The far right pulled out both Ohio and Fl. in 04. The religious right did not entirely support either Dole or Bush Sr and we ended up with 8 years of Clinton. The religious right fully backed W. and Reagan and look what happened. Danforth reminds me of Bush Sr. and Dole. That sector of the party had two chances and look were they took us on the national level. Danforth's whining and complaining will definitely fall on deaf ears on the national stage.

At 2/02/2006 11:18:00 AM, Blogger neocon22 said...

tim kaine and mark warner are in no way legislative "moderates". they are campiagn "moderates" but do not legislate the same way they campaign. some might call this a smokescreen, and some might also say that those who believe them are gullible, case in point being the proposed tax plan by kaine.

the point of this whole discussion is to show that by campiagning on social issues alone, and condeming republicans who have other ideas, is not going to help the gop at all. if the gop completely loses control of nova, then the rest of the state sticking with the gop does not matter, simply because of the number of voters nova.


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